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hollisiguess
5 days ago

im scared to ask how you feel about lottie as a character

i have a very complicated relationship with lottie and ive been DYINGGG to talking about her because shes more interesting than shauna can ever dream of being. SHE'S the complex female character we need more of.

okay so to preface: i have multiple scales for character appreciation in my mind. there's writing (how well they're characterized and their role as a narrative decive), personality (how much i would fw them as people), action defendability (self explanatory, how willing i am to ride for their defense), and treatment in the fandom (how contrarian i wanna be)

yall know how it is yapping under the cut

lottie. ohhh boy.

writing: oh no notes. 10/10 she is one of the most fascinating characters in the show. her setup and descent is so well done, and her motivations are beyond complex, like you have her trying to do the best for everyone, but also her whole "the wilderness will choose" mindset. she contrasts herself in the yummiest ways possible. her role in the story is absolutely the most relevant and important for the narrative to progress the way it does. as a character, shes's so well done it makes me wish that i could be objective about the whole thing

personality: unfortunately im not able to enjoy characters simply from a robot analysis objective scale. lottie's personality is -while interesting- absolutely INFURIATING to watch. i personally cant stand characters that i call "progress blockers". she repeatedly forces her belief system (deep psychosis) onto the rest of the team, at the expense of escape or actual rational thought. this is where i have to admit: i root for morally sound, logical characters especially in shows like this. "but you can't watch the cannibalism show and complain about the cannibalism" first off. who said im complaining about the cannibalism. im just complaining that shes tormenting my favs (ben, travis, akilah, nat). i do like that she plays a complicated role as the group's mediator, except her mind is so warped, she does an awful job at it (drugging travis, letting shauna beat her up, deluding her followers). i think that shows how much she cares for these people deep down, and i can respect that. more on that later in ther actions section.

actions: so lottie, like i mentioned earlier, has a really interesting internal conflict of wanting to do whats best for as many of the team as she can, while also not being against sacrificing them for the wilderness's mercy. she very much believes that the ends justify the means. however. i can't ever look past her scenes on doomcoming. and im hoping that the people who made it this far aren't illiterate fucking troglodytes who want to debate on what actually happened to travis that night. because it was s/a, actually, it was attempted gang rape and then attempted ritualistic murder. "you cant watch the murder show and hold it against the murderers" we all know damn well that thats not what was most upsetting about that scene, and im allowed to hold certain crimes over eachother in terms of severity. and quite frankly i just cant bring myself to like a character who engaged -ACTIVELY LED AND RATIONALIZED- in that. lottie's whole schtick is that she just doesnt fucking understand or respect boundaries, literally and metaphorically. moving on from doomcoming, she's weird and culty about shauna's baby, which shauna has full right to be freaked out and pissed about. she becomes the leader of the group in s2 and then can't make proper decisions. she lets shauna almost beat her to death instead of trying to mediate the situation rationally, setting up shauna's vengeful nature we see in s3. thats something i could talk about for hours, how shes partially responsible for the shauna we all know and hate. her drugging travis and akilah is a page straight out of misty's handbook, and i dont think i have to explain why it's wrong. her killing edwin?? denying them all escape, causing a chain reaction with shauna and tai also staying behind??? that elevated my blood pressure to a level dangerous to my health. i cannot stand progress blockers. yes, i know she thinks everything she does is right. that doesn't make me (a rational bystander) like her actions any more. again, there are rational people in the show, so im just gravitated towards them sorry guys.

fandom: lottie has two types of people rooting for her in the fandom. theres the "omg my lord and savior she can do no wrong" group and the "omg crazy ass schizo mental illness queen" group and neither of them get her. she's flawed. but her flaws shouldn't all be attributed to dehumanizing conversations about her mental illness. let's not forget that she was a 17 year old going cold turkey on antipsychotics after living the last decade on them, in a situation that's beyond stressful, mind you. no fucking wonder she turned out that way. whatever. i feel like there arent a lot of her fans who recognize the absolute gray nuance in her character. or maybe im just on tiktok too much and everyone on there is fucking rotted beyond belief.

conclusion: i love her. i hate her. im neutral. she scares me. i blame her for all the problems out there and she's doing her best. that's the point

Im Scared To Ask How You Feel About Lottie As A Character

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hollisiguess
5 days ago

Lottielee Everything Everywhere All at Once AU where in every single universe out there, they never fall in love with each other, except for the one where their plane crashes.

In some universes, they meet each other and run in similar circles. In other universes, they’re oceans apart, and the possibility of them even passing each other by on the street is so significantly small.

In all of these other universes, they turn out just fine. They live common lives as normal people who don’t know that in only one out of millions, if not billions, of other universes out there, they hold each other’s hearts.

They never have to suffer losing each other in all the other universes because they only fall in love once. Still, it’s in that one, singular universe where Lottie suffers and Laura Lee dies that things finally go right.

It’s the only universe in existence where they find love. The tragedy is that no matter how powerful that love is, nothing stops Laura Lee from dying. Nothing stops Lottie from losing a piece of herself that she tenderly placed in Laura Lee’s care.

All the different Lotties and Laura Lees in other universes never find their way to each other. They never experience the cruelty of fate as it rips one of them away from the other. However, they also never experience happiness the way they do in that one singular universe where they’re together.


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hollisiguess
6 days ago

You guys are defending Mari when she literally walked all the way to civilization without them just to fuck Shauna’s dad


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hollisiguess
1 week ago
Oh Ok

oh ok

hollisiguess
1 week ago

My Roman Empire.

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1 week ago
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1 week ago
Pilot LL

pilot LL

hollisiguess
1 week ago
IM CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

IM CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

hollisiguess
1 week ago

that edit of teen lottie tackling people down just reminded me one of my favorite things about her and also laura lee that many people in the fandom tend to forget, the fact they are both defense players

defense is probably one of soccer positions that demand the most from the players physically, and it's very common for the players to be taller and stronger than the rest of the team so that they can stop the other team's attack, help the goalie and prevent the other team from scoring goals

that's truth specially for center backs like lottie

left backs and right backs like laura lee are not necessarily as tall or strong as center backs, but they also can help both in defense and attack, so they have to be a combination of strong and fast

and both positions oftenly foul the adversaries, though, of course, the most skilled players know how to do that without getting a yellow or a red card

so, in conclusion, we have rich introverted-quiet-girl-turned-soft-spoken-cult-leader and sweet bible thumper, and they both could take. you. down. in the field if necessary

hollisiguess
1 week ago
Hiii Drew More Lottie Lee !!!!!! There Is Nothing Casual About Them Ever

hiii drew more lottie lee !!!!!! there is nothing casual about them Ever

hollisiguess
1 week ago
Fly High Mari And Coach Ben 😞😞
Fly High Mari And Coach Ben 😞😞
Fly High Mari And Coach Ben 😞😞

Fly high Mari and Coach Ben 😞😞

Jackielee come get ur wives they’re terrorizing the local lesbians

Blood version

Fly High Mari And Coach Ben 😞😞
hollisiguess
1 week ago
I Would Give Anything For A Van And Laura Lee Friendship

I would give anything for a van and Laura lee friendship

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1 week ago
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1 week ago

TMA gave us homophobic vase and now TMAGP has transphobic curtain

hollisiguess
1 week ago

"y'all's" is the best regional solution to the english second person plural possessive problem but "your guyses" is my favorite because it sucks

hollisiguess
1 week ago

had a bad low blood pressure moment last night and messily asked my partner for saltines and water before realizing i should probably ask for the Blood Pressure Medication I Need To Take. while they went to go grab it though i still had water and crackers so in a daze i took a swig of water but didnt swallow and then tried to cram 2 saltines in my mouth. full of water. in bed. with mouth full of water

hollisiguess
1 week ago

Yellowjackets S3E08

Yellowjackets S3E08
hollisiguess
1 week ago

"Oh Mari isn't gay she didn't know Tai and Van were dating." Heaven forbid a lesbian be a little stupid. She was born 20 minutes ago what do you expect.

hollisiguess
1 week ago
Yellowjackets Big 3, Argue With The Wall (the Pilot)

yellowjackets big 3, argue with the wall (the pilot)

hollisiguess
1 week ago

ya I found this out I was like 8 cause I was doing a presentation on him, goes without saying my teacher was concerned when I went on a rant about him cheating on his wife and how I hoped karma would catch up to him

okay but if you ever see a male creative who had a string of great work and then everything else he did was dogshit, go to the "personal life" part of his wikipedia and look at his relationships. you'll either find a major tragedy he didn't recover from (completely understandable) or, more likely, there was a woman in his life doing uncredited shit editing his stuff or contributing generally and she's not there anymore.

I told a friend about this phenomenon in literature and he called me weeks later like, I remembered what you said about women doing uncredited work when tim burton came up. he made a string of bangers then everything else just was nowhere near as good. the timeline matches perfectly to when he was with this german visual artist (lena gieseke). he's done some good work in collaboration, but if things were dug into I suspect we would find she did a lot more than people realise.

so yeah whenever you look around like wow women didn't work in history, or, women aren't auteurs, or, there just aren't as many great female writers - societal reasons for that aside, half the time they absolutely did.

hollisiguess
1 week ago
Can’t Believe The American Werewolf Would Say This.

can’t believe the american werewolf would say this.

hollisiguess
1 week ago

I imagine some trans person or enby changing their name like.

-> Goes to Wiktionary.org -> Clicks "Random entry" -> My name is now ጭምብል


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hollisiguess
1 week ago

@yourlocalsluttymanenjoyer @ohwowhereiam

Y’all know bout this???

I Haven't Watched The Episode, Didn't Even Know There Were New Episodes Releasing These Days, Then A

I haven't watched the episode, didn't even know there were new episodes releasing these days, then a celebratory clip appears on my feed and this was literally my reaction


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hollisiguess
1 week ago

sometimes a family is:

escaped convict papa

active suicide risk stepfather

mentally ill orphaned daughter

and who could forget: survivor’s guilt son-in-law


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hollisiguess
1 week ago

Yellowjackets as textposts

Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
Yellowjackets As Textposts
hollisiguess
1 week ago

babe are you okay i saw you posting without tags again

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1 week ago
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